March 26, 2017

The Orlando Shooting and Islam

[You can listen/watch this here if you would prefer that to reading.] Last night there was a shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando Florida that, as of the time I am writing, is said to have led to the death of at least 50 people. The shooter was a 2nd generation Muslim immigrant from Afghanistan.

In America, with the exception of 9/11, 50 people being killed in a terrorist attack is basically unheard of. In the Arab nations that Muslim immigrants come from, it is all too common. In 2013 alone, a single year, the Muslim world experienced more than 20 terrorist attacks with death counts over 50.

Many people like to imagine that Islamic terrorism is supported by almost no one in the Muslim world. That is not the reality of the situation. Surveys done in Germany, England, France, and Spain, suggest that about 1 in 4 Muslims think that violence against civilians in the name of Islam can be justified. Similarly, Pew polling shows that between one in eight and one in three Muslims believe that suicide bombing can be justified depending on which Western nation you look at.

Perhaps most strikingly of all, a survey of 600 American Muslims found that one in four agreed with the statement “Violence against Americans here in the United States can be justified as part of the global jihad.”

Of course, one in eight or one in four is less than half. But these numbers imply that for every 1,000 Muslim immigrants will let in we can expect to gain 130 immigrants who think that suicide bombings are justified and 250 immigrants who believe in violent Jihad. These figures are all the more worrisome when you consider that,  as last night reminds us, it only takes 1 Muslim to carry out a mass shooting.

Some people blame Islamic terrorism on poverty. This claim doesn’t match the facts: the more Muslims a nation has the higher its terrorism rate tends to be even after controlling for national differences in wealth.

Other people say that it’s not a Muslim problem but, instead, an Arab or African problem. Again, this is just not true. If you restrict the sample to nations of a single region you find that Islam is still associated with terrorism. In other words, even among just African, or just Arab, nations, the more Islamic a nation is the higher its terrorism rate tends to be.

Sometimes, liberals will pretend that they don’t understand proportionality and point out that White people commit more acts of terrorism in America than Muslims do. This statement is true, but also pointless because Muslims make up less than 1% of the population.

Suppose you and 5 of your friends ordered a pizza. The pizza had 12 slices. Your really fat friend eats 5 pieces, while everyone else eats fewer than 2. What would you think if, in response to it being pointed out that he ate more pizza than everyone else, your fat friend began screaming about how non-fat people are the majority of the pizza and so it was clearly unfair to single him out. Would you buy this?

Of course not, you would have to be mind numbingly stupid to accept this line of reasoning, and yet this is exactly what Liberals do when it comes to Islam and terrorism.

If we look at all the terrorist attacks that occurred in America between 1980 and 2005 we see that roughly 6% of them were committed by Muslims. During this time, Muslims made up about .45% of the American population implying that Muslims are about 13 times more likely than non-Muslims to commit a terrorist attack.

It we look at the number of people killed by terrorism, the numbers become even more striking. If you start counting after 9/11, the majority of people killed in the US due to terrorism were killed by Muslims. If you include 9/11 victims, well, I’ll let the analysis speak for itself:

“If you include the death totals from 9/11 in such a calculation, then there have been around 62 people killed in the United States by Islamic extremists for every one American killed by a right wing terrorist”

Most laughably of all, some liberals will try to make this about gun control. Islamic terrorism happens all over the world. It happens in the U.S, it happens in Israel, and it happens in France. It happens in places that basically ban guns and it happens in places with very light gun laws. Terrorists don’t care about your laws, and anyone who is this ideologically determined to kill will be able to get a gun one way or the other.

Gun laws might stop crimes of passion by making it less likely that random people will have deadly weapons. That is a debate worth having. But there is no way in hell that they will stop pre-planned, and normally suicidal, terrorist attacks.

At this point, some leftists will try to shift the conversation from politically motivated terrorism to mass shootings in general. They will then tell you that mass shooters and serial killers are all White males, and so we should let jihadists pour into our country.

Aside from the obvious shift on conversation topic, this is just an anti-White lie the left propagates. Whites are less likely than non-Whites to be involved in mass shootings and serial killings.

This will surprise some people, as the media heavily concentrates on White offenders in these crimes. However, the media’s presentation of these crimes is driven by bias, not the reality of crime statistics.

Anyway, back to Islam. Muslim immigrants bring terrorism with them. This can be seen all over the world.

They bring crime, too. Crime data from many European nations shows that Muslim’s are far more likely than non-Muslims to be criminals (1).

Islamic Crime in European Nations.PNG

So, if you will permit a generalization, Muslims are violent. However, their violence is not random. That this terrorist attack happened at a gay nightclub is not surprising. According to Pew polling, more than 80% of Muslims around the world think that homosexuality is morally wrong. Similar numbers disapprove of abortion. Moreover, the prevalence of Islam in a country has a strong negative relationship with gender equality. Islam is an extremist and anti-liberal ideology.

Some people recognize that Muslim immigrant populations are extremely problematic with respect to crime, political ideology, and terrorism, but believe that these problems will only last in the short run because future generations of Muslims will assimilate into Western culture just as past waves of European immigrants assimilated into American culture. This is a comforting belief, but, unfortunately, the evidence suggests that it is false. Multiple reports out of England have shown that young and native-born Muslims are more likely than old and foreign-born Muslims to embrace extremist versions of Islam. Similarly, Pew polling has found that native-born Muslim-Americans are more likely than foreign-born Muslim Americans to support suicide bombing and to have a favorable view of groups like Al-Qaida. Finally, work done in Germany, Norway, and Denmark has shown that young and 2nd generation Muslims have higher crime rates than older and foreign-born ones. Thus, contrary to the assimilation hypothesis, the descendants of Islamic immigrant populations in the West seem to only be getting more extreme, more radicalized, and more dangerous. Given this, it is not surprising that last night’s mass murder was a second generation Muslim immigrant.

Muslim immigrants bring with them Muslim culture, and terrorism, anti liberalism, and violence, are foundations of Muslim culture. They make America, and Europe, less safe.

In recent years, we’ve seen Muslim immigrants carry out pedophilia rings in Rotherham, Britain, commit mass rape in Cologne, Germany, bombings in Boston, and mass murder in Paris, France ,and now in Orlando, Florida.

We don’t owe this to anyone. Sacrificing the lives of western citizens to Islam and political correctness is despicable. Those people last night should not have died. The people who will be killed in the next western Islamic terrorist attack, which we all know will happen, should not be killed. The people last night are gone. The victims of the next Islamic terrorist attack can still be saved.

End Muslim immigration. Expel the refugees. Stop pandering to leftists and Islam. These things are not worth western lives and western civilization.

 

 

 

 

  1. Source2: England,  FranceDenmark, Belgium (Roth 2014 page 408), Norway, the Netherlands (Roth 2014 page 408), and Australia.

 

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  • Husky

    A very biased article told from a very one-sided narrow minded, angered viewpoint. You conveniently listed all negative facts about Islam without mentioning any positive facts at all. And there are definitely tons. All religions have negative statistics out there, buddy. So you’re not doing anything special here. All you have done here is just list a slew of negative facts which are still not representative of the over 1.6 billion Muslims in the world : many of which are peaceful. You also didn’t mention once how terrorists like ISIS are killing more MUSLIMS daily than non-muslims. Also a fact btw. A truly “alternative hypothesis” for any topic looks at all angles intelligently and scientifically and still offers up a different theory. Through your writing, it is easy to tell an amateur, biased kid is writing about a topic that has angered him.

    • Jah Kel

      Why don’t you state your counter-argument? Like what are the “tons” of positive facts you speak of? What other religions compare on the scale of “negative statistics” that Islam has? ISIS killing Muslims or non-Muslims makes no difference, it’s radical Islam at work regardless…. “Buddy.”

      • Husky

        The best counter-argument to list, I suppose, is that I am an american-born sunni muslim and I know communities of thousands, that all follow a peaceful lifestyle and philosophy. I am a primary source, if you will. I live a normal life and respect all other beliefs (something which Islam actually encourages) and none of the communities I am connected to ever suggest any kind of violent and heinous behavior. As a muslim, I DO know that anyone like me, that is following the true simple faith, knows what ISIS or any what any other radical extremists (that frankly should not even call themselves muslims) is claiming to follow is complete BS and twisted.

        When I say that ISIS is killing muslims more than non-muslims…how can you say it makes no difference? It ABSOLUTELY makes a difference. If some christian extremists were going around calling themselves “Christian State” and claiming to represent all Christians, and then were actually turning around and killing a majority of Christians themselves…wouldn’t that strike you as odd? We literally hate ISIS more than anyone lol. And they are killing our OWN people cause the people REFUSE to follow their hatred and terrorist ways. That means nothing to you? You guys are so easily generalizing and making the majority of us the enemy with articles like this, when all we really want to do is actually support you in condemning these violent idiots.

        I will admit that yes, a lot of the muslim world is still third world and thus they still have stone age beliefs and are less liberal…but that does not mean they are more extreme. It’s not black and white like that. Even if some muslims do portray more “biblical beliefs” or core sharia law cause they are still living within their older third world cultures, that is still not enough to generalize all muslims as simply extreme and bloodthirsty. All monotheistic beliefs have core scriptures filled with biblical shit, which if one were to dissect out of context, or even in context, might resemble sharia law in a lot of ways. If you don’t believe me, just pick up a bible and read through. So to state that only Islam is stone aged or anti-liberal is ridiculous. And when I say other religions have negative statistics too….for that, just pick up a history book. I was speaking with a very knowledgeable and respected Christian co-worker just the other day, and even he was briefing me on all the slaughters and killings that have taken place in history under “Christianity’s” cause. But I suppose those are all forgotten so easily, right? Simply cause it was centuries ago? I suppose the crusades automatically made all Christians terrorists and killers forever, right? With today’s media propaganda, and ISIS’s tactics to leverage the media, all muslims are under the spotlight so very quickly and generalized automatically, unfortunately.

        The only reason you are seeing more of these attacks from muslims today is because the media is constantly blasting muslims as terrorists, which actually helps ISIS recruit more deluded lunatics who think the westerners are out to get hate them. It’s like a “Do not enter” sign for these lunatics. That orlando shooter was mentally unstable. ANY terrorist attacker who attacks civilians, is mentally unstable and does not respect life. That is not Islam’s views. But don’t believe a word I say if you do not wish to. I respect your opinions and I don’t blame you for them. When I commented before, I myself was frustrated by these attacks, and I apologize if I came off rude.

        • John Mason

          The best counter-argument you can provide is anecdotal evidence? “Well I know a bunch of peaceful Muslims, therefore the majority of Muslims are peaceful.” Then you go ahead accuse the article of generalizing? When the article is pointing out the fact that Muslims are disproportionately more violent than the rest of the population. You can attack the conclusions the article draws with the facts, or question the source of the facts themselves, or the way the facts are presented, but saying that you are not personally a terrorist does not constitute a sound argument.

          Furthermore, when you say that ISIS is killing Muslims more than non-Muslims, it makes no difference to the point the article makes. Which is that Muslims are disproportionately more violent when compared to non-Muslims.

        • Sonnenrad

          Even if one were to accept your “not all Muslims” argument, you completely neglected to mention a single one of the “positive facts” about Muslim immigration. So what if Muslims aren’t all terrorists? Why do ANY of you belong here? Literally any minuscule increase in risk of violence or even social discord should be enough to slam the door on immigrants since the privilege is entirely one-way. You think Americans benefit somehow from having large populations of foreigners in our communities? No, the foreigners benefit, but we natives do not. Stay in the hellholes of your people and leave the safety and peace of European societies to the Europeans who built them.

          The rest of your bullshit about the media radicalizing otherwise moderate, progressive Muslims must be some kind of a joke that I don’t get.

    • grifhunter

      A slew of “negative facts”? Really? A lump in a breast is a negative fact. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be acted on and cut out for the survival of the greater body.
      Your Not all Muslims are bad theme is just political correctness and a leftist infantile impulse to avoid doing the dirty work that needs to done to preserve the safety of civilized society. Because Muslims have the stone aged belief system of resolving theological differences with violence and a lot of Muslims are victimized, that means the civilized world must ignore that belief system? All religions don’t have negative statistics like this and your suggestion of such is a flaming lie.

    • “A very biased article told from a very one-sided narrow minded, angered viewpoint.”

      Well, there are two senses in which an article can be biased and one sided. One sense of these terms merely implies that an article takes a particular viewpoint. This is true of my article, I take the viewpoint that Muslim immigration is bad. This does not imply that any of my arguments are not valid. On the other hand, an article can be biased and one sided in the sense that it only alters readers to arguments from one side of an issue and so could be called misleading. My article does not do this. I explain and respond to many counter narratives in this article.

      It is true that mass shootings make me angry. This is normal and a healthy response to terrorism. It does not make my arguments invalid.

      “You conveniently listed all negative facts about Islam without mentioning any positive facts at all. And there are definitely tons. ”

      I don’t think that Islam has positives that outweigh the lost lives that result from Islamic terrorism and their generally high crime rates, not to mention their other costs (welfare usage, ethnic tensions, sharia politics, etc.). If you think that Islam has benefits which outweigh these costs then, by all means, list them.

      “All you have done here is just list a slew of negative facts which are still not representative of the over 1.6 billion Muslims in the world : many of which are peaceful.”

      Most Muslims are not peaceful. Most Muslims support the use of state violence that is entailed by sharia law.

      http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/gsi2-overview-2.png

      “You also didn’t mention once how terrorists like ISIS are killing more MUSLIMS daily than non-muslims. ”

      Muslims kill 50 Westerners and you expect me to write an article bemoaning the death of Muslims? Sorry pal, that’s not how it works.

      And yes, Muslims are violent and primary live near other Muslims and so, naturally, they kill huge numbers of Muslims. That is true, and it is unfortunate, but is not what this article is about. The article is about how bringing Muslims into our countries will endanger Western lives. That is a valid topic. The west has a right to defend itself.

      • idolikemangoes

        Love how matter-of-fact you are about muslim deaths. It exemplifies the disconnect from reality the west has submerged into from their shitty news media. Let me apply the same logic for you:

        “And yes, Muslims are violent and primary live near other Muslims and so, naturally, they kill huge numbers of Muslims.”

        “Americans are violent and primarily bomb schools and innocent people in Muslim countries, and so, naturally, Muslims want to kill Americans.”

        Logic. Wow.

        • Hayus

          Here we see a SJW blaming Whitey/The West. I’m sure you blame slavery for Black underperformance too.

          • idolikemangoes

            This is ironic because 1) I can’t be an SJW because i used a fact in my response (that being the universal truth of murica fucking up its foreign policy and shitting itself with wars and violence) and 2) you used the ultimate SJW signature move of using a label to disparage someone’s argument without presenting even a tidbit of your own.

          • Kris Polk

            “And yes, Muslims…” and “Americans are violent…” are not analogous statements at all.
            His first claim is explaining why violent Muslims commit many aggressions against outsiders, but the majority of their aggressions are against each other.

            The second claim that you presented would make more sense and would be more analogous if Muslims attacked Americans a lot in acts of terrorism, but committed few acts of terrorism against each other.

            While you and I probably agree that American foreign policy, especially since the neocon takeover, is absolutely vicious and murderous, it’s not true that the US routinely bombs schools as a matter of policy. Regardless, we shouldn’t be involved in middle east conflicts. But the fact that the internationalists who are behind the very foreign policy you bemoan are often supportive of Islamic expansion into the West should suggest to you that this dubious notion of the ‘clash of civilizations’ is more complicated that it would appear.

      • Husky

        Please see a reply I made below to another comment.

    • 0.159

      he shouldve mentioned positive facts like high rates of bacha bazi employment and the burgeoning market for medicinal camel urine. try making a comment that isnt your life story rolled into a whiny adjective soup

      • Hayus

        Don’t forget the inbreeding.

      • Nicholas I

        Well somebody’s got to bugger the bachi bazi!

    • Liberal

      >statistics are biased
      Formally, they can be. When the bias cannot be explained with mathematical wizardry, we might conclude that the data are telling us something about reality. Now is the time to form hypotheses and to make inference regarding causative mechanisms. Why are these “negative facts” borne out by hard data? Are they not true? If they are true, then would we not be wrong to disregard them?

    • Nicholas I

      Re “You conveniently listed all negative facts about Islam without mentioning any positive facts at all. And there are definitely tons” :

      [crickets…crickets]

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  • Stark truths, brilliantly well written.

  • Nicholas I

    Time for the feds to ban muz and queers and muzqueers from getting weapons!

    Muz Record-Setting Killer was a Fudge-Packer

    NY Post:

    Ex-wife’s bombshell claim: Club shooter was gay

    By Chris Perez and Joe Tacopino

    June 13, 2016

    The ex-wife of Orlando mass killer Omar Mateen claimed Monday that she believed he was homosexual — as it was revealed that he frequented the gay nightclub where he staged the nation’s worst massacre in modern times.

    Sitora Yusufiy, who was married to Mateen in 2009 for three months, made the shocking claim on Brazilian television station SBT Brazil.

    Her fiancé, Marco Dias, speaking in Portuguese on her behalf, said Yusufiy believed that Mateen had “gay tendencies” and that his father had called him gay in front of her. Dias also claimed “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”

    The bombshell came as a male former classmate of Omar Mateen said he had been asked out romantically by the mass killer, who reportedly was a virtual regular at the Pulse nightclub, having visited it more than a dozen times over the years.

    The former classmate said he would hang out with Mateen, hitting gay bars after attending class at Indian River Community College police academy in 2006 — and one time Mateen asked him out “romantically,” according to the Palm Beach Post.

    “We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate told the paper.

    The classmate told the paper he thought the killer, who pledged allegiance to ISIS before killing 49 at the gay nightclub Pulse, was gay and in the closet.

    The classmate’s claims came after reports emerged that Mateen frequented the club for years before Sunday’s massacre.

    “It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, a drag queen who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

    Callen’s husband, Ty Smith, recalled seeing a drunk Mateen being escorted from the club.

    “Sometimes he . . . would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” he told the Orlando Sentinel.

    At least four Pulse clubgoers remembered seeing Mateen at least a dozen times in the past. But authorities said they had no further information when asked about the sightings on Monday. NBC reported that the FBI was looking into his alleged club visits.

    “[He’d get] really, really drunk,” Smith told the Canadian Press. “He couldn’t drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict . . . He used to bitch about it.”

    Callen and Smith said they both stopped speaking to Mateen when he threatened them with a knife, after someone made a joke about religion.

    “He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen explained. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”

    They also shot down claims that Mateen had snapped after seeing two men kissing each other in public.

    “That’s bullcrap, right there. No offense. That’s straight-up crap. He’s been around us,” Smith said. “Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar … He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?”

    Kevin West, another regular at Pulse, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen used gay dating apps on a regular basis and even messaged him on a gay dating app, Jack’d.

    He even saw Mateen an hour before the shooting.

    “He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’ ” and nodded his head, recalled West. “I could tell by the eyes [it was him].”

    One Orlando man, who refused to be named, told MSNBC that he had seen photos of Mateen on several gay dating apps, including Grindr, Adam4Adam, and Jack’d. He claimed that at least two of the man’s friends had been contacted by Mateen on the apps in the past.

    “He was very creepy in his messages, and I blocked him immediately,” the man said.

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  • waffleironmarch

    The media has been desperately grasping at straws, calling attention to rumors that Mateen was gay, both out if a doublethink desire to condemn the rumors themselves as homophobic and to point to them as evidence that if so, Mateen’s attack was a result of self-hatred imposed by society/religion/masculinity in general and thus not only just more homophobic as a result, but not meaningfully about Islam at all.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/15/conservatives-desperate-ignorant-orlando-blame-game.html

    • waffleironmarch

      Additionally, in order to bolster their narrative of Islam being a red herring for the real problem of homophobia, the MSM is making the bizarre argument that Mateen’s motivation wasn’t ~really~ serious about his ‘alleged’ Islamic motivations due to his ignorance of current events in pledging allegiance to three terrorist groups who are all fighting against one another…so again, the problem must be societally instilled and internalized/externalized homophobia. The very mildest argument you see them making is that the extent of Islam’s involvement in his motivation is unclear to the point of being essentially unknowable, and as such, homophobia is the only certain and concrete element and must assume total focus, with other speculation being if not unhelpful, then somehow actively destructive to “who we are.”
      http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-tells-orlando-shooters-ex-wife-u-s-media-mateen-gay/

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